What A Tangled Web We Weave…

Spider-man’s iconic black suit not only began as fan-fiction; but was created in my own backyard… 

It goes without saying, but Spider-man is one of the most recognizable and popular fictional characters of modern times. Aside from the practical life lessons Spider-man’s tales teach us, he simply has one of best designed costumes of any superhero. The classic costume was designed by co-creator Steve Ditko back in 1962 and, for decades, has had minimal changes. That is until 1984, when Marvel comics unleashed the Saga of the Alien Costume detailing Spidey’s new look, powers, and  “responsibilities” that came with it. The jet black costume with the large white spider “hugging” Spidey’s torso is considered iconic by today’s standards. But, once again proving the world of fandom hasn’t changed, his new threads were met with major fan backlash.

Despite the bed wetting, Marvel comics truly embraced Spider-man’s new look. Going as far as rebranding their own corporate logos, letterheads, and marketing materials featuring Spider-man solely wearing his fresh black and white duds. Signifying the era of red and blue was over. The dark minimalist modern look is Spider-man as we know him. A move as bold as the costume itself! But why change something already iconic? Why fix what isn’t broken? Well, to simply shake up the Spider-verse. The higher the stakes of the story, the more attention it gets, the more copies sold. Spider-man trading his iconic costume for a new one is daring. But just how and why is it happening? 

Marvel UK’s Spider-Man #632 (1985) – cover art by John Stokes

There are two ways to explain this: one involving interplanetary war, alien technology, and super powers. And a second that’s far more personal and interesting. 

From a fictional perspective, Spider-man went to Beyonder’s Battleworld during Secret Wars, picked up the black symbiote from a machine he thought would fix his damaged suit, and had Mr. Fantastic remove it once he discovered it was sentient and taking control of his body. Then-editor-in-chief Jim Shooter felt like stirring the proverbial spider-pot. And the Saga of the Alien Costume involved some heavy hitting comic talents of the day; with names like Tom DeFalco and John Byrne absorbed by the symbiotic goop. Spidey went on wearing the black suit for the next 4 years of publication. 

The symbiotic alien costume became one of Spider-man’s most legendary looks and eventually led to an entire symbiote saga spawned (heh) by Todd Mcfarlane. During Mcfarlane’s rise to industry superstardom, he created the super villain Venom who went on to become Spider-man’s most popular adversary and a comic book all star in his own right. Decades later the symbiotes have become not only a staple of Spider-man but the Marvel Comic universe. 

And It All Started With a Piece of Fan Mail…

Lets fast forward to early 2007, Sam Raimi’s third blockbuster Spider-man film looked to be adapting the saga of the symbiote suit; by this time considered an iconic storyline. Suddenly the “symbiote saga” became as relevant as ever within popular culture. The massive hype surrounding Spider-man 3 shattered the quiet demeanor of humble Spider-fan Randy Schueller. A fan letter response circa 1982 had been circulating online concerning the black suit saga. Comic Book Resource managed to contact Randy Schueller, the fan in question, and published a response directly from him: 

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There’s been some discussion in the fan press recently about the original idea for Spidey’s black costume coming from an anonymous fan. Well it’s true and I am that fan. Here’s my story…

Back in the early 80s, Marvel ran a competition for aspiring writers and artists. Being a lifelong Spidey fan with delusions of comic grandeur, I took a stab at a story idea.

I thought it would be cool if Spidey needed to upgrade his powers and his look, so I came up with this idea that Reed Richards had made a new costume for Spidey using the same unstable molecules that the FF costumes are made of. The unstable molecules would flow into Peter’s pores and allow him to cling to walls better.

I saw the new suit as a stealth version of the original costume – jet black so he could blend in with the shadows. At best, all you could see of him was the blood red spider emblem, emblazoned on his chest. (Yeah, in my design the spider was red, not white. I also gave him underarm webbing like in the original Ditko design.)

Oh yeah, and I stole an idea from Iron Man and made his web shooters work using the same cybernetic technology that Tony Stark used to control his armor. Peter just had to mentally imagine the kind of web line he wanted to shoot and the suit would do it for him. (Keep in mind, this was 25 years before Civil War and “Iron Spidey”!)

A few months after submitting the story I received a letter from Jim Shooter saying he liked the idea and wanted to buy it for $220. I was thrilled! But the best part – they offered me a chance to write the story. How cool is that?

I ended up submitting a second version and even had a follow-up phone call or two with Tom DeFalco to discuss the script. Wow! Me on the phone with a real live Marvel editor. I still can’t believe this happened !In the end, the whole scripting thing just didn’t work out for me – I don’t remember the exact reasons. I submitted another version of the story, they didn’t like it, I stopped sending in letters. The whole thing just kind of fell apart. Regardless, I had no regrets. As a true blue Spidey fan, this was a very cool moment in my life.

A year or so later, when Secret Wars came out and I saw my costume idea executed in a completely different way than I had envisioned it, I was simultaneously thrilled and saddened. And when the idea of the black costume caught on, I was even more thrilled. And then when VENOM was created I was…disturbed. I was never a fan of the costume-turned-villain idea. Venom just never really seemed to work for me. But I digress…

Now, fast-forward to 2007. I see that the black costume (MY black costume, sort of) is making it’s way to Spider-Man 3. Wow! I couldn’t stand it anymore – I had to come out of the closet and tell my friends and coworkers about my contribution to this year’s BIGGEST blockbuster. And I had all the documents to prove it even if Marvel never mentioned my name.

Since Marvel paid me for the story, I have no real gripe, but I do feel bad that they didn’t give me any kind of acknowledgment in the comics. You know, something like, “costume concept by Randy Schueller” or “Thanks to Randy Schueller for inspiration,” or “Randy Schueller, you Spidey fan-boy stud, you rock!” But no, I got nothin’! That’s my one disappointment in this whole story.

I’ve written to Tom Defalco before, but I’ve gotten no response. Maybe Marvel is afraid I’ll sue them or something, but that’s not the case at all! I don’t want any money, I don’t want any legal rights to the Venom character. All I want is this: a mention in the letters column of Amazing Spider-Man recognizing me as the nameless fan who sparked the idea for the black suit which eventually led to the idea for Venom which eventually became the basis for this freakin’ monster movie we call Spider-Man 3. That’s all I want.

Thanks for letting me vent!

Randy Schueller

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Since this story broke back in 2007, Randy has been credited in a few articles and wiki pages concerning Spider-man’s black suit. But he has yet to receive any official credit or nod from Marvel Comics. Randy also did not detail if the black suit would give Peter Parker emo hair and cringey dance moves. 

Jim Shooter’s response letter is dated August 3rd, 1982.  

The Black Suit concept published in the October 1983 Issue of Comics Journal (Notice the red spider!)

Going back, news of the costume change hit the October 1983 issue of Comics Journal. It included a full character illustration in profile (The image, like the rest of the magazine’s interiors, was in black and white, but the accompanying article notes that Spider-Man will be “trading in his costume for a black-and-red one…“). This is the first proof of Randy Schueller’s idea surfacing publicly. Complete with the red spider Randy mentioned in his 2007 response. And, finally, a few months later on January 31st, 1984 Amazing Spider-Man #252 was released: the first published story featuring Spider-Man’s black costume. With the torso spider now inexplicably white. By this time, As Randy mentioned, the story was out of his hands and he was ghosted by Marvel Comics. 

The 1st published appearance of the black suit: Amazing Spider-Man #252; January 31st, 1984

Randy Schueller’s concept led to one of the most iconic story arcs in Spider-man history that’s relevant to this very day. Yet he simply brushed greatness…with no credit received. 

This tale is nothing new if you’re familiar with the industry of comic books. Theft and appropriate credit is something that the comic book industry has had trouble with since its inception and still has till this very day. Growing up, you may not be aware of the shadiness of it all. Instead you’re swept away through the escapades of Spider-man’s adventures, oblivious to the tangled web weaved behind-the-scenes. But, hopefully, if anything…if this article can inform just one person about this case in particular…it’s worth writing. 

Now Let’s Bring This All Back Home…Literally

If you know me, you know Spider-man is a character that means entirely too much to me. His stories have helped me through personal hardships and I’ve used him as a beacon to help others through their own peaks and valleys. Being a lifelong fan, I’ve followed this particular “comic book urban legend” as it broke back in 2007 and took note. Complete with Randy Schueller’s letter saved on my computer. Because what was most surprising about all of this was Randy’s address typed on the response letter. He lived in my old neighborhood.

Only a couple miles from my own home. A building I’ve passed possibly hundreds of times. The apartment where he wrote his “black suit” idea was on the block of the K-Mart I frequented. The very K-Mart where my Spider-man action figures, pajamas, and comic books were purchased from. Deeper you say? I distinctly remember buying the black suit Spider-man and Venom action figures there. Just a stone’s throw away from where the original idea bubbled up! Of course, I had no idea at the time. Who the hell would?   

To go even deeper, the apartment building is located off Harlem Avenue…behind, what is now,  a deli. But that deli used to be two businesses: an auto parts store and a used video game retailer. In high school, I used to regularly walk to that video game store to buy and sell many games, among them being several Spider-man video games ranging from awful (Return of the Sinister Six) to excellent (Activision’s Spider-man). Being a peak comic geek in my high school days, I’d often (proudly) wear my black symbiote Spider-man shirt. All while directly behind me were the humble beginnings of one of Spider-man’s most legendary storylines. Like J. Jonah Jameson realizing Peter Parker is Spider-man…it was completely unbeknownst to me. 

Realizing this back in 2007, it’s safe to say my little nerd world was rocked. I immediately took a walk to the address just because I had to see it for myself. And I decided to visit it again for this very article! Might as well celebrate many anniversaries: 44 years since Randy Schueller sent in that fateful letter to Marvel…40 years since the published debut of the black costume…even the 18th anniversary of me finding all this shit out. I stood, once more, where Spider-man’s black suit was inexplicably conjured. It wasn’t some space asteroid or Battleworld. Not even the Marvel bullpen. Instead it was 4319 N. Neva Ave of Norridge, Illinois. There isn’t a 12 foot bronze statue or “Birthplace of Spider-man’s Black Suit” plaque, or even a pile of old Spider-man action figures surrounded by used candles. There’s nothing. Just another unremarkable block of dated Chicago apartment buildings. The K-mart’s gone. The video game store is gone. And I’d bet you a fun size 3 Musketeers that Randy Schueller hasn’t lived here in ages ( if he happens to read this I bet he thinks I’m weird). 

But like the black symbiote suit itself, it holds many past memories. It’s really cool to unweave a bit of Spider-man’s treasured tangled webs leading to your own backyard. And I knew I was in the right spot…because I’m pretty sure my spidersense did indeed tingle. 

Until next time, True Believers. 

Excelsior and all that stuff. 

Ad Nauseam: Wizard Magazine #78

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Look! Up on the internet! It’s another installment of Ad Nauseam: tediously long articles where I take the form of an elderly man sharing his geeky recollections of “the good ‘ol days” that nobody asked to hear! It’s been a while since I buckled down to write one of these, so I figured my subject matter better have quite the fat to chew. And our issue today is nothing short of obese, folks. I mean, I can practically hear it wheezing.  Let’s set the scene for February 1998:

You’re bummed on the bus ride home from school because your Tamagotchi died for the sixth time this year. As you prepare to get off on your block, Josh the bully, compares your body shape to that of a Teletubbie. Embarrassed, you scurry off with clenched fists. It’s Monday, so you look forward to a new episode of WCW Nitro to cheer you up. You get home and open the door to your room, admiring the new “I Want To Believe” X-Files poster you bought at Spencer Gifts last weekend. You carelessly throw your backpack to the floor, pick up your Gameboy, and fire up your newest savepoint in Pokemon Red. The music of the Spice Girls hum from your clock radio. You hope they play some of The Offspring next. Nope, it’s Alanis Morissette

Frustrated by the sleeping Snorlax ignorantly blocking your way to Lavender Town, you turn off your Gameboy and decide to finally study. But just as you’re about to open your backpack you spot the newest issue of Wizard Comic Magazine on your nightstand. You begged your mother for it, just as you do every month, during another insufferably mundane grocery store trip. “Homework can wait” you think as you delve into another issue, losing yourself in a world of halftone fantasies where you always felt more accepted.  

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Wizard Magazine #78: February 1998 

Wizard was a monthly magazine about comic culture featuring news, previews, and interviews. It boasted price guides, advice columns from industry professionals, and contests packaged in its own slew of offbeat humor. It was also a spotlight on the comic community with monthly sections showcasing fanart, costumes, collections, polls, and reader mail. It ran from July 1991 to March 2011. To admit that “Wizard Magazine was my bible” would be a severe understatement. From my preteen years until my early twenties, it was a respite from the norm. This was long before cinematic and television “universes” and the ability to connect through social media to discuss them all. This was a time where mentioning “Iron Man” was met with blank stares, collecting action figures was a dark hidden secret, and no one noticed you quoted Yoda in your cover letter. 

You can download a PDF of this entire issue here! Although I don’t remember having this issue in particular, you bet your bippy I transformed into my childhood self (sans a Godzilla ‘98 shirt) thumbing through it’s digital pages. Understand this is a 200+ page magazine. I’m not going to cover every advertisement offered. I’m certain that would kill me. But I did cherry pick what I could gab about most complete with bad jokes and embarrassing childhood memories. I recommend reading this while sipping your favorite beverage from a Disney Animal Kingdom McDonalds Collectors cup for a true 1998 experience…

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Tomb Raider II Video Game 

Looking back, it’s sort of wild realizing nearly every male with a Playstation crushed hard on a video game mascot that looks like she’s made out of cardboard boxes. But that’s Lara Croft, baby. Of course, as video game consoles progressed to increase polygons, Lara increased on the Babe-O-Meter. But even in the early days of Tomb Raider, she was still viewed as the sex icon of gaming. Maybe if Samus and Zelda wore some booty shorts and showed off the midriff they’d be in the same discussion? I was aware of Tomb Raider even though I had yet to play the games, and that’s mostly due to seeing ads like these…which involved Lara in some sort of cheesecake-pinup-pose. They certainly get your attention…but, at the time, I didn’t know what these games were about.   

If you never played the Tomb Raider games…imagine an Indiana Jones adventure presented through a mosaic filter…but the protagonist is a rich British babe…and she controls like Frankenstein. Take note this wasn’t just Tomb Raider II…this was Tomb Raider II starring Lara Croft. The character had become so hot that her name became part of the title. And, on top of that, she was getting her own action figure just 2 years after her initial debut! Sure, she ended up looking like Michael Jackson’s mugshot, but it was the only way you could finally wrap your Dorito crusted fingers around a real physical Lara Croft. She’s at her peak, boys. And it’s simply not the late 90’s without Tomb Raider. 

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Wizard World Chicago ‘98 Convention

Besides magazines, Wizard also held some of the largest countrywide comic conventions in the 1990s through the 2000s. Chicago Comic Con started back in 1972 and was purchased by Wizard in 1997. Rebranded as “Wizard World Chicago”, it became the homebase for Wizard Magazine and its award ceremonies. It grew to the third largest pop-culture event in the country, only behind New York and San Diego Comic Con. The first comic book convention I ever attended was Wizard World Chicago (though I was late by a couple years to this particular con) and it was something that rocked my fandom to the core. It was as if the world I had been reading about came to life and charged me money to go inside of it. And although I’m used to paying to go inside things, I always got more than my money’s worth in terms of fond memories and special moments when it came to Wizard World..  

With this ad, you can’t get more “1998” than Todd Mcfarlane’s dramatic mystery face. The guy practically was the comic industry at the time (for better and for worse). Spawn disappointed us all with his big silly Hollywood movie the summer prior yet was still hotter than Hell (ha!). Mcfarlane’s toy company was busting out affordable collector figures with detail like we’ve never seen before. And Image comics was puffing out its chest to bigwigs like Marvel and DC boasting some of the most popular comic characters at the time (#YoungbloodFan4Life). Nowadays, unfortunately, Todd Mcfarlane has been less “let’s revolutionize the comic industry!” and more “My mouth writes checks that my ass can’t cash!”. There was a time where I daydreamed about being this guy…but now I sort of treat him like grandpappy saying racist things at the family Christmas party. Smile and politely excuse yourself.  

Believe it or not, this was a time when comic book conventions were about the comic book industry. A big convention like this would cost you $10 a day or $25 for a 3-day- pass. And you could actually walk around once you were inside. Today, a comic convention is an event in which you put a 2nd mortgage on your house to wait in a line for 16 hours to get a picture with one of the kids from The Stranger Things. It’s worth the “likes” though, isn’t it guys? 

I’m not bitter you’re bitter.  

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Toyfare Magazine Ad

Imagine Wizard magazine but it’s 100% about toys. That’s Toyfare magazine. It’s published by Wizard, so it literally has the same flare, humor, and layout. In fact, I used to get these magazines mixed up all the time. The main difference? I would never buy Toyfare Magazine. Why? Because I was too embarrassed! I could never convince my mom to slap down some hard cash for a subscription, so all my copies of Wizard came straight from the grocery store magazine rack. And this was before the days of self checkout. At the time of Toyfare I was clearly a boy that was approximately “Too-Old-To-Play-With-Toys” age. So the embarrassment of walking up to the cute checkout girl and give her five bucks in exchange for a magazine exclusively about spandex clad plastic people was too much for a shy nerdy 13 year old to handle. 

I had to quickly rifle through the magazine in the store. Quickly scanning each page and absorbing it’s information like a Johnny Five robot obsessed with capitalistic garbage. I had no time to be taken aback by surprising figure releases. Excitement was saved for a safer time. My precious moments were spent cementing release dates in my brain for action figures I pined for. Triple H Wrestlemania 16 Attire? Summer 2001. Now Playing Series 1 Darkman figure? Spring 2005. Scanning. 12 inch Power of the Force Boba Fett with real cloth costume? February 1998. All this data processing being absorbed before my mom waltzed around the aisle with her grocery cart. When she entered within range to command a “C’mon, lets go…” little did she know my knowledge of future action figure releases increased tenfold since we entered the store prior. I had an updated list of future figure daydreams. I could not simply abandon the mission. The future of creating new and robust playtime adventures was at stake. 

I’m pretty sure typing that reinstated my virginity. 

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Julie Strain Posters and Lithographs

I decided to include this ad for several reasons…the first being it’s colorfully ugly…the second being I don’t understand what any of it means…and the third being it features an awkward looking Mark Hamill drawing. It’s three ads in one. Each one being more confusing than the last. So let’s try and make sense of this together…

After some research…Julie Strain was a Penthouse babe in the early 1990s. Think of Penthouse as Playboy’s younger not-as-classy coke addicted brother. And if you really wanted to bring that “sexually frustrated” aura to your room , you can buy some racy original artwork featuring her likeness. But if your parents believe the “Miami weed dealer” aesthetic has no place in their house …well you’re in luck! Because artist Rob Prior replaced all that nudity with 90’s sci-fi fodder! We have some laser guns, Vampirella attire, probably some power crystals (pretty sure she’s wrestling a dinosaur in one). They’d look great hanging next to your gas station velvet tiger painting. The pinups have a bit of an ugly retro charm to them. As for Julie Strain, she made “headlines” earlier this year by simply being alive. God bless, Julie. 

The two other comics advertised have little to no online presence to be researched. I can find next to nothing on the artists either. The “Lost Heroes” comic starring Mark Hamill is pretty interesting because, despite being a futuristic setting featuring demons, Hamill is just drawn wearing a t-shirt on every cover. It’s clear they reached out to license his likeness for marketability, and Hamill just sent them 4 modern 8×10 headshots and cashed the check. 

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Hangar 18 Toys & Collectables 

Wizard issues often featured some ads for “local” businesses such as this one. Of course, with this magazine being nationwide…”local” was a matter of opinion. Although I can’t recall ever seeing a store from my neck of the woods, I still loved seeing what others had to offer. Take “Hangar 18” of Wichita, Kansas offering a peripheral “Who’s who” when it came to a 1998 toy aisle. Star Trek, Babylon 5, DC, Marvel, Star Wars, and Spawn. Also Puppet Master showed up for some reason. Who invited that guy? Do you kids notice anything peculiar? There’s no website! No pre orders either. If I wanted that Violator action figure, I had to call that number, get mailed or faxed an order form, send it back with payment, they process my payment, and finally ship my toy. The whole process could take months. With no guarantees if it would still be in stock either. A Violater of my time perhaps! 

Out of all the figures offered in this ad, I believe I only had a handful of Star Wars “Power of The Force” figures. The electronic X-Wing pictured here was a birthday gift I cherished way longer than necessary. It was possibly one of my favorite toys growing up. I looked up “Hangar 18” and, unfortunately, they no longer exist. What’s sad about a lot of these “pre-internet” businesses is there’s no sign of them existing unless you came across a random ad such as this. A couple years back I bought a couple dozen old Fangoria horror magazines. It was disappointing looking up so many of the “Cult Video” businesses advertised with virtually zero acknowledgement of their existence. Besides these little physically printed nuggets, the internet has been a broom to their footsteps. So tonight, my homies, pour out some Patron in remembrance of your favorite forgotten collectable store. Word up, my brothers-in-plastic-articulated-arms. Your essence lives with Wizard.


 As absolutely syrupy as this sounds, Wizard Magazine was much more than a magazine to me. It was a ticket to another world I’d visit a few hours a month. A world where my interests and hobbies were not insulted or looked down upon…but instead celebrated. An issue of Wizard was always carried in my backpack or messenger bag throughout my life. And it’s a piece of media that has very much shaped the man I am today in too many ways to list. In the words of Egon Spengler “print is dead.”, so the need for this magazine to exist in modern society is moot. But that doesn’t mean I can’t miss what it was. 

To be real, I enjoy looking back as a hobby. Nostalgia is a fun thing to experience from time to time. I haven’t looked through a Wizard since it was currently in publication. And going through this particular issue really gutted me. Every page brought a flood of memories back in a way that no “Ad Nauseam” article had done prior. This was a really bittersweet experience. And I don’t think I can go through another Wizard issue for a while. I’m a person thats always been about moving forward. But nothing has quite sent me the message of “The Past is Dead” like this issue and article.

Thanks for cracking open a 22 year old magazine with me. You’ll always find articles on the remnants of comic culture right here on ChrisDoesComics. Now, excuse me, I have to go purchase some LR44 batteries. My Tamogotchi isn’t just going to revive itself now, is it?

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